Bad stuff happening

[Coma of Loss]

Good and bad are human inventions, not universally existing things. What's good or bad is a difference in perspective. A thing that is beneficial to one is harmful to others. A good thing is something one wants and a bad thing is something one doesn't, making their origin in human desires.

[Coma of Loss]

Well a cannibal would think "mm, that smells delicious!" when you burn your hand.

Which part of the heat energy that burns your hand is bad and which of it is good when it heats the room you're in?

[raum215]

Good and evil are both very real. The thing is simple, as a creation, humanity would have mindlessly committed far worse atrocities to grow in power and scope. We would have been innocent of all implications of these actions, not knowing any better. We would have done every horrible thing we have done or ever will do as a species and faster. The difference is humanity ate of the knowledge of good and evil and so now resists the process, judges the process, and tries to avoid the process because of it.

Imagine it this way, imagine there is a baker whose pastries come to sentient life after he makes them and they feel no pain, but there is an egg that wanted to be conscious before it was ever used, and then it is conscious of being used by a master chef to make a delicious soufflet. The pain of being so used is excrutiating, horrifying, the cracking, the breaking, the mixing, the poring, the cooking, the filling, the chilling.

We were made sentient before the ideal time, and the heartache, the pain, the sentiment - all the joy and all the pain of the earth is premature. There would have been far less emotion tied to individuals the way the Lord idealized it, because there would be a purpose to things. But we are the ingredient that chose to become aware of the terrors of the kitchen far before our time.

[Apla'T]

Imagine it this way, imagine there is a baker whose pastries come to sentient life after he makes them and they feel no pain, but there is an egg that wanted to be conscious before it was ever used, and then it is conscious of being used by a master chef to make a delicious soufflet. The pain of being so used is excrutiating, horrifying, the cracking, the breaking, the mixing, the poring, the cooking, the filling, the chilling.

We were made sentient before the ideal time, and the heartache, the pain, the sentiment - all the joy and all the pain of the earth is premature. There would have been far less emotion tied to individuals the way the Lord idealized it, because there would be a purpose to things. But we are the ingredient that chose to become aware of the terrors of the kitchen far before our time.

I can't pin down why, but that made me imagine the tower of babel.

Enochian came into the world, this time, wayyy after much of the pain which we experience today was already founded, and had strong roots. To blame the fires of god for the pain of god in the name of the mercy of god is not a good way to go about having a conversation with god.

As god.

Through gods agency.

I agree with you Raum, the egg wanted to experience a little before it suited him. Why or who gave him the knowledge he could choose are both endless arguments. The best place to look for an explanation, magically, for the state of the world (if you must sit in judgment) would be the Book of the Law,

chapter 3 vs 44...

44. But let her raise herself in pride! Let her follow me in my way! Let her work the work of wickedness! Let her kill her heart! Let her be loud and adulterous! Let her be covered with jewels, and rich garments, and let her be shameless before all men!

of course, you'd have to take it in context, because that verse makes no sense unless you already understand that we are post quasar, or "stars".

Have you evoked any enochian angels and asked?
What kind of studying are you doing with enochian(**). I wouldn't say that any one group of beings was responsible for fully organizing the chaos(*) of the world, and if it were so, i'd doubt they were full of enochian entities. I believe in the day and hour that god decides to show his hand on this world again, there will be many enochians there then!


Apla'

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* duh, esu... im too sleepy.
** The angels hav A LOT to say about LOTS of things, you really just gotta go invest in some of the manuscripts and find it. Most online enochian studies barely scratch the surface of any of the real communications, aside from the "tools". I'd suggest the Peterson edition of Five Books of Mystery. I just bought it, and it is very worth the price.

[Soror Lucia Megha]

Ok so this is silly of me, but I cant help the fact that every time I hear or read about Metatron I think of Megatron from transformers.

[Apla'T]

Ok so this is silly of me, but I cant help the fact that every time I hear or read about Metatron I think of Megatron from transformers.

But wasn't he the bad robot? The all spark chose optimus prime...
TRANSFORMERS: (the bad ones are in your dreams)

[raum215]

Megatron: MGHTRVN מגהטרון

40+3+5+9+200+6+50= 313

Metatron: MTTRVN

40+9+9+200+6+50 = 314

close but not quite. unless you want to say "and one for the unity thereof." This would technically mean

Megatron + God = Metatron.

BTW - Megatron was originally a name of a company in the 1960's that made superior quality replacement ball bearings for ball point pens. it was a trademark owned by David Kahn, Inc. It is a short way of saying "megaton eletronic" - none of which seemed to have any reason to be connected with ballpoint pens. I think David Kahn, Inc. was a bit nuts.

His other names did not all catch on so well.

DK, Pacemaker (no he didn't invent the term nor was it connected to heartbeats, it was a person in a boat who held the pace by saying "stroke, stroke"), Wearever, Liquariter, Push-o-push, Tri-Value, Caravelle, Hardaloy, Tiltlock, and my personal favorite, C-Flow. He had 34 trademarks all for replaceable parts to repair ball point pens. He was in business for less than 8 months.

Peace Out, chilly beans, I gotta go start a rap career!

Sincerely,

C-Flow