axismundi wrote:Arete: In my view the purist, goetia only approach, must work because I feel that Steve Savedow's work is valid, some of the phenomena he describes as occuring before the demon appears I also have had. I do not have all the regalia, Solomon's seal and Hexagram I just scanned from out of crowleys goetia, I have about 90% of the regalia and equipment required. On P70 of The Goetia of Dr Rudd (Skinner & Rankine) an illustration showing an angel holding the keys to hell and holding a Demon on a chain is shown. This I feel is the essence of how I succeeded; the appropriate angel is invoked 5 times a day until seen and communicated with in the shewstone. Firstly I asked the angel for aid and help in accordance with the angels qualities and powers. Then I asked the angel to help me with the evokation to physical manifestation of the Demon, this was agreed upon. Then the 45 day sequence that I describe at the top of this thread is commenced.
So.. it seems to me that the purist approach must work because I genuinely believe Steve Savedow was succesfull and he does not describe working with schemhamphorash angels in his books. For me schemhamhorash angels are what finally enabled me to succeed and it would seem this was also used by some medieval magicians (eg the angel with the chained demon woodcut shown in Rudd's goetia book).
King Soloman: In previous attempts with goetia in which I got some physical effects but did not succeed, I used the bornless fragment, perhaps I was not doing it properly.
axismundi wrote:The most important thing I feel I did was a practice, a daily sequence 5 times a day to contact the appropriate shemhamphorash angel such that eventually the angel was visible to the naked eye in a quartz crystal ball.
Magus11 wrote:I have since then used the Longobardus very recently, once. It is certainly in keeping with the style of Goetia ceremony, although it is not needed so long as the prayers of the Artem Novam are used which is probably sufficient enough.
TheodorVoland wrote:Magus11 wrote:I have since then used the Longobardus very recently, once. It is certainly in keeping with the style of Goetia ceremony, although it is not needed so long as the prayers of the Artem Novam are used which is probably sufficient enough.
This too, is very interesting. Could you post a reference (or link) to the former text? I have read mentions of it in books on Goetia, but have never seen the text itself.
king solomon wrote:I was gonna pick up that Keys to the Gateway of Magic, but the store didn't have it in! I ended up buying a book on Shamanism instead.
Is Keys to the Gateway of Magic a good read or is it just stuff I could find in the grimoires?
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