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Handling stubborn targets/difficult victims

Postby plum_girl » Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:48 pm

As some members know, I´ve been dealing with a nasty, neverending problem . This quest forced me to think, troubleshooting my magick and evocation MO. Looking through the forum, books, and googling, I realize that the issue of "stubborn targets" in Black magick is not widely discussed.
Have you guys ever faced an oponnent that - thanks to spiritual highjackers/guides, magical shielding or whatever - seems difficult/impossible to hit? I mean, when you are expecting to succeed in your usual timeframe and that just won´t happen (results are unusually slow, or just temporary and fade after a while, or even after you hit the bloody bas***d with your nastiest tricks he/she rises again and makes the best of the situation, or worst, turns it around?). Has anyone here dealt with these "Terminators"?
A local witch I know uses a common binding spell BEFORE any other spellwork, as a preparatory work, just in case. This seems a very clever idea. I also recalled a very rare, little known entity I used years ago, several times, with huge sucess. I had it in the back of my mind, but in stress I forgot about it. It´s a fearless, annoying spirit whose sole purpose is to weaken other entities that may guard the target, or weighting on the powerful oponent himself until he gives in to magical attacks (PM me if interested). Any other methods, approaches or ideas on dealing/beating stubborn targets? Any success stories would be much appreciated as well :).
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Re: Handling stubborn targets/difficult victims

Postby anonda » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:36 pm

using some confusion products could help
ingredients: poppy seeds and black mustard, for example..
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Re: Handling stubborn targets/difficult victims

Postby IcePrince87 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:30 pm

I've dealt with a few people of that nature, and have come to the conclusion it's their oblivion which protects them, as it is often said god protects the fool. The way I've learned to deal with them is to work around them- attack their lives and leave no stone unturned. That should leave them completely open to any work you want to do on them specifically, because their energy is too scattered and therefore weak, to be able to resist being further effected by your will.
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Airhead

Postby plum_girl » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:22 pm

Hi Prince, that explanation has ocurred me in this particular case. A person apparently harmless, a total airhead scatterbrained freak; extremely sneaky however, and able to plot in a sociopathic way and go unoticed. Would you care to exemplify that approach of yours? How do you do it? Insist with different types of spells attacking several angles and aspects of the targets life until they finally crack?
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Re: Apologies and thanks

Postby IcePrince87 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:40 pm

plum_girl wrote:Hi Prince, that explanation has ocurred me in this particular case. A person apparently harmless, a total airhead scatterbrained freak; extremely sneaky however, and able to plot in a sociopathic way and go unoticed. Would you care to exemplify that approach of yours? How do you do it? Insist with different types of spells attacking several angles and aspects of the targets life until they finally crack?


I observe and note what seems particularly relevant in the person's life and I would proceed to level a curse based on that into their lives. It serves as an excellent starting point given the level of frustration that results. From there, I'd begin doing the same in increasing levels of destructiveness until hardly anything of their lives remained. As an example, I'll use one of my past instances: The school jock. He was extremely proud of his car-can't tell you what it was, aside from a mustang something or other(I hate cars). I waited until the school parking lot emptied, and took pictures of it as I myself was leaving campus while he was still at 'football' practice. I went home and cast a spell of misfortune using the pictures, ending with my burning the images. within a week or so, his car had stopped on him multiple times, he'd had two flat tires, and finally the last time, it began smoking under the hood. By the time that week was over, he was already so aggravated, he was starting fights with his 'friends'(does anyone like that really ever have friends?). Having gotten what I wanted, i then proceeded to direct other misfortunes in his life, in an increasingly more destructive way- ruined his relationships with his girlfriend and his other friends, attacked his family life by throwing random misfortunes at his family and home, and after a few months he was a literal wreck, at which point, i directed a curse at him specifically, and undid the other spells. So while his life itself returned, the curse itself took hold and within a month or so, he was subject to having constantly broken bones to the point that he was told he should sit the season out. In the end, I got what I wanted, because he was never the same again- I still hear every once in a while about the newest issue he has.
Hope that helps you a bit.
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Airhead

Postby plum_girl » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:07 pm

Excellent story . I love you southern people :D. The idea of aiming at an isolated, apparently irrelevant soft spot is smart indeed. In this kind of work, I usually tend not only for my specific goal but simultaneously place general curses that weaken the target as a whole and hit them where it hurts the most, or where they are flawed and easier to lose it, digging their own grave(no pun intended) :p. However,starting with a smaller attack concerning exclusively what makes them tick never ocured me!
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Re: Airhead

Postby IcePrince87 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:51 pm

plum_girl wrote:Excellent story . I love you southern people :D. The idea of aiming at an isolated, apparently irrelevant soft spot is smart indeed. In this kind of work, I usually tend not only for my specific goal but simultaneously place general curses that weaken the target as a whole and hit them where it hurts the most, or where they are flawed and easier to lose it, digging their own grave(no pun intended) :p. However,starting with a smaller attack concerning exclusively what makes them tick never ocured me!


Well, then I'm glad you love us ;)
And I'm equally happy I could help out.

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Re: Handling stubborn targets/difficult victims

Postby Asarial » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:57 pm

I am currently dealing with a stubborn target as well. Like the op said, it never occured to me to attack specific parts of their lives. It makes sense though...a person's life is like a house, with a foundation and many levels. To cause the most damage you don't attack the whole house. You start out with one level or room at a time and work your way to the foundation, leaving a lot of chaos in your wake.
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Re: Handling stubborn targets/difficult victims

Postby anonda » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:30 pm

i agree with what some have posted
a. attack something/area that is dear to the target
b. attack a weakness of the target: addictions, for example....
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Re: Handling stubborn targets/difficult victims

Postby plum_girl » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:20 pm

The soft spots are an interesting theme for debate and I hope we can go into more detail tomorrow.
Anonda, I believe confusion work may have results on some targets, preventing them from thinking straight. I use those ingredients in my confusion formulas. Mustard is great also for inflammatory confusion, seeking to separate groups of enemies. However, from my experience I can tell that it can be a slow moving type of spell, or not suitable for all resistant targets.


Meanwhile, there´s something I wrote this morning (couldn´t post it right away because had limited access to the net) else I´d like to share:
Another technique I use every now and then is brazilian, and seeks to bring down the target´s "guardian angel" - or whatever the douchebag´s excuse is :D. (I don´t know if I´m allowed to post this here, if not plase warn me, guys...).

You need 6 white taper candles. Place 3 of them forming a triangle (stick them on the ground, or on a tray placed over your altar) and the fourth candle you must brake it, and stick it (pointing down, to the left/candle3)on the right side of the base of the triangle:


candle 1



candle 2 candle 3 candle 4 (broken)





Light them.
Then, write your name on a strip of paper, and tie it to another candle with sewing thread. Put that candle on a virgin, brand new (never used) glass filled with half water, half honey. Say:


"I do this to strenghten my holy guardian angel" or the like.

Finally, take the last candle, write your enemy´s name on another stripe of paper and tie it close to the wick. Turn it upside down and carve a new wick on the bottom. Focus on your intent. Begin by lighting the normal (up) wick. Then light the bottom wick (this can be tricky to do, but you´ll manage), and keeping the candle reversed, snuff the upper wick, and the name, inserting the candle in the glass. Say:

"I do this to break the strenght of (target´s) guardian angel". Let the candles burn down. The weird thing is the flames should extinguish when they reach water level, but by the strenght of black magick, if the work is well done, they´ll keep on burning, the candle consuming UP the glass. In the end you´ll have a mush of wax above the remaining water. Dispatch everything on a crossroads.

Then you may proceed with your spellwork. This preliminar spell also works for stubborn LOVE targets, or bend over spells. It´s not as powerful as the spirit job, but works quite well. Before doing it, I noticed that ALL my spells were going awry: candles falling/breaking/going out for no good reason or refusing to light up, strange wax forms, interruptions out of nowhere, etc. After doing it, things started to flow normally, allowing me at least to perform without setbacks- and results appeared, even if not definite.



Any other badass preliminary/ complementary techniques, experiences, frames of mind you guys know of for an "indestructible" target?
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